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Local, LAN control

Last week I lost control over my house, for 12 hours, because something went wrong with iTead systems.


Sonoff devices device works flawlessly per se, and I'm very happy to have 13 of them around my house.

But...

I'm beginning to think there's a glitch in their marketing model. I haven't thought for a moment that they want to spy on us, like some else implied in this forum, but every serious usage require redundancy and backup.

We cannot rely on the whole "cloud" model to be always working: too many things can go wrong on the user side, on itead side and, eventually, on the side of the many third party service providers involved (ISPs and Cloud providers above all).

Every digital and/or networking system might stop working every now and then. While we can surely afford not to remotely switch on a light, what about water heating, house heating, door opening, surveillance systems?

I did my best to build redundancy in my installations, but there are two factors that are not easily overcame.

First, some sonoff device might be (and in my case are) difficult to be physically reached: inside walls or up near the ceiling, the onboard switch is almost useless in these cases.

Second, Dual sonoff aren't capable of manually switching the connected devices on/off: if the system isn't working (i.e. they are offline), the only possible solution is to uninstall them, which is not acceptable at all.


iTead (and coolkit) seem to be trying to sell their solution to third parties (other manufacturers who are supposed to relay onto their whole solution, cloud included) which is cool. If I had to, I would guess that's why they are so "cloud-centered": to offer a easy and rapid solution, all included. It's cool. 


But other than toyish usages, without redundancy their solution is unimplementable: I hope they realize this soon (if they haven't already).


The solution that comes to mind is very simple, and a few have already suggested it here: a dual control system. The cloud is great for remote control, but when the app is on the same local network the sonoff devices are, everything should switch to local. Simply put: automatic switching to LAN control.

If I'm home, I should be able to control my devices even if my Internet connection is down.


If they could do this with an open protocol, that would be top. But after all, not everyone of us wants to build his/her own system: I'm cool with their app, they can keep their protocol reserved as much as they want. To me, the only thing that matters is that I don't ever lose control over my house again.


Other than the above, thank you iTead, I'm very happy with your products!


What do you think?








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funny!


just wrote a feedback from ewelink app and 30 minutes later all systems work again!


Was I really the first to tell them?

Or is it only accidentally?

we'll see...


@ slam:


sorry, don't know LEDE or Alix!?


but you know that openWRT is just linux, so...


I have an old fritzbox, running a FEHM server additionally.

@mICHael wERNER....LEDE is new name of OpenWRT, Alix is made by PC Engines (Swiss) https://www.pcengines.ch/

Thanks for tip I read up about FEHM after I posted the question, it seems very easy install...yes..Im linux friendly, happy systems are back and running now..

 

Today there are again problems with the relationship (Bulgaria - Eastern Europe) ... I am looking forward to local control

https://www.itead.cc/blog/explanation-on-service-disruption-on-eu-region This is explanation of Itead for disruption AWS SERVER
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@ mohammad hossein norouzi THX 4this link!

Local control please Itead, Your server not reliable at all.

This would be fantastic to see, hopefully in the future they give us LAN control via the APK. Would also reduce the server responses and possibly be cheaper for the company in the long run. Excellent thread 

We will be closed during Chinese New Year holiday from Jan 11th to Feb 22th.


Joke of a business ! these units could be sao good, but their infrastructure is shit ! simply not worth the hassle.

Really sad to see that there is no feedback from Itead about this, it's a great suggestion

I’ve read somewhere about local control being available for Android uders but not iOS. Will have a quick look.
It is in the FAQ: “8. Are the Sonoff series support control by LAN? Answer: iOS app doesn't support LAN control. Some Android model supports. Currently, these models are included(updating): Sonoff Basic, Sonoff RF, Slampher, S20, Sonoff S85, Sonoff SV, Sonoff Touch EU/US, BN-SZ01 LED, Sonoff T1 1gang, S30, Inching/self-locking WiFi Switch 5V and 12V” See: http://support.iteadstudio.com/support/discussions/topics/11000001799
Interesting. If this is true, does anyone bave information on how to control them by LAN?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pC-ovOfD_0

Something I found, ITEAD showing a not-so-useful progress report on LAN control. At least it is in the works

From memory they posted that after they broke IFTTT in early January. I had hoped they had released it already. It’s unfortunately on an android phone, so I can’t test it. I only have a really old one ewelink doesn’t work on. I can do other things over LAN using my iPhone, so I don’t think it is tech thing. That includes talking to Atmega328 chips which aren’t capable of significantly better security protocols than the Sonoff.
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