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Local, LAN control

Last week I lost control over my house, for 12 hours, because something went wrong with iTead systems.


Sonoff devices device works flawlessly per se, and I'm very happy to have 13 of them around my house.

But...

I'm beginning to think there's a glitch in their marketing model. I haven't thought for a moment that they want to spy on us, like some else implied in this forum, but every serious usage require redundancy and backup.

We cannot rely on the whole "cloud" model to be always working: too many things can go wrong on the user side, on itead side and, eventually, on the side of the many third party service providers involved (ISPs and Cloud providers above all).

Every digital and/or networking system might stop working every now and then. While we can surely afford not to remotely switch on a light, what about water heating, house heating, door opening, surveillance systems?

I did my best to build redundancy in my installations, but there are two factors that are not easily overcame.

First, some sonoff device might be (and in my case are) difficult to be physically reached: inside walls or up near the ceiling, the onboard switch is almost useless in these cases.

Second, Dual sonoff aren't capable of manually switching the connected devices on/off: if the system isn't working (i.e. they are offline), the only possible solution is to uninstall them, which is not acceptable at all.


iTead (and coolkit) seem to be trying to sell their solution to third parties (other manufacturers who are supposed to relay onto their whole solution, cloud included) which is cool. If I had to, I would guess that's why they are so "cloud-centered": to offer a easy and rapid solution, all included. It's cool. 


But other than toyish usages, without redundancy their solution is unimplementable: I hope they realize this soon (if they haven't already).


The solution that comes to mind is very simple, and a few have already suggested it here: a dual control system. The cloud is great for remote control, but when the app is on the same local network the sonoff devices are, everything should switch to local. Simply put: automatic switching to LAN control.

If I'm home, I should be able to control my devices even if my Internet connection is down.


If they could do this with an open protocol, that would be top. But after all, not everyone of us wants to build his/her own system: I'm cool with their app, they can keep their protocol reserved as much as they want. To me, the only thing that matters is that I don't ever lose control over my house again.


Other than the above, thank you iTead, I'm very happy with your products!


What do you think?








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 another +1 for an MQTT mode

Local control please Itead, Your server not reliable at all.

I’ve read somewhere about local control being available for Android uders but not iOS. Will have a quick look.

I scoured the internet again, and found someone linking this site in one of the other threads

https://blog.ipsumdomus.com/sonoff-switch-complete-hack-without-firmware-upgrade-1b2d6632c01

Has anyone tried building a local control service with this info? I'm at work so I can't verify any of this at the moment

It is in the FAQ: “8. Are the Sonoff series support control by LAN? Answer: iOS app doesn't support LAN control. Some Android model supports. Currently, these models are included(updating): Sonoff Basic, Sonoff RF, Slampher, S20, Sonoff S85, Sonoff SV, Sonoff Touch EU/US, BN-SZ01 LED, Sonoff T1 1gang, S30, Inching/self-locking WiFi Switch 5V and 12V” See: http://support.iteadstudio.com/support/discussions/topics/11000001799
Interesting. If this is true, does anyone bave information on how to control them by LAN?
The fucking cloud id down AGAIN and I cant access my stuff or control it. Fuck this shit. Im done with them and Im posting negative reviews every place I can find.

 

He probado el control Lan.

Algunos de mis dispositivos funcionan.

Pero otros como el CH4 PRO todavía no funcionan.

Espero que en las actualizaciones futuras todos trabajen con la red local.

Todavía hay mucho que pulir, pero es un primer paso.

LOL


Local control isn't that hard to add to an app, if itead was going to do it they would have done so by now.


Flashing a new firmware takes less then 5 mins.


This would be fantastic to see, hopefully in the future they give us LAN control via the APK. Would also reduce the server responses and possibly be cheaper for the company in the long run. Excellent thread 
Still waiting on local control like Local MQTT and COAP to be enabled in firmware. There's an alternative Sonoff killer Im exploring now too called: Shelly1, which might be worth a look. It has a good REST API too. Enabling MQTT publishing via REST calls. https://youtu.be/J20hxfUTP9I Seems interesting...

Pls pls add LAN control. It is essential.

TASMOTA AND YETI APP 

Thanks for that.

On a separate issue with the 

1 Chnl Inching/self-locking 5V 12V Switch.


It seems to consume power even when not been operated.

i,e, if I run it from battery (output not connected) it drains the battery even as I watch - dead in a few hours.

Wireless connection power does not explain it since smart wireless magnetic sensors do not drain the battery much.


FYI I found a ITEAD table of which products support LAN control. Link below.

Table of products spec

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